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New Post 5/23/2008 10:10 PM
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Disney 

How many of us can say right now that we support Disney 100% for what they've done for our boys? With recent 'events' I don't think many of us can...


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New Post 5/23/2008 10:41 PM
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Re: Disney 
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I'm not saying that I don't like how Disney markets people, but at the same time you KNOW what you are getting into. This is their dream...Disney didn't tie them up and force them to. They went to an audition and did it, Disney liked them, they even have a song about being glad to be signed to their new company...

I personally, do not like walking into a shoe store and seeing hannah montana socks and high school music hair products, but that's life. It is what it is. Kids demand a certain kind of entertainment today and they demand everything to come with it. Times change, but this is how money is made. You also have to look at how disney is run....Disney Channel ONLY advertises for itself on Disney Channel. They make the majority off of the merchandise they sell for that channel. Most of their movies for Disney Channel are available to anyone that gets the channel, the money has to come off it somehow and that is the best way.

The thing about the Jonas brothers is that they are so marketable. They are nice, funny, down to earth, talented and cute. Perfect for Disney. But there is something that makes them very different: YOU GUYS. You all say that NO ONE will take them seriously, which to an extent is true. But how can you say NO ONE when clearly you all seem to care very deeply? Just because they are representing the Disney company now does that mean they will lose your support?

You can't cater to haters. There will always be some. But there are plenty of YOU around to support them long after camp rock dies down. I went to a WYLMITE show....and I have never seen anything like it. They can break out of Disney and beyond because at the end of the day they CAN'T be thrown to the curb because all of you will STILL BE THERE. You fans are crazy, when it comes to these boys you don't mess around. But honestly, I think everyone needs to stop the negativity and focus on the positive. If this is their dream and what they signed up for, out jobs is to SUPPORT it.

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New Post 5/23/2008 10:55 PM
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Re: Disney 

This has been talked about a lot recently.  Especially with the Barbies and all.

I definitely can't say I support Disney 100%.  I know these boys deserve the world but I don't know if this is the kind of fame I was hoping for.   Don't get me wrong the popularity is good, I just think at some point it's going to end up being too much.  

Yes I think that CR is going to be huge for them but how long is it going to take for it to turn into HSM?  How many of those actors can be taken seriously outside of Disney?  And I have a feeling conserts are going to turn into the HM experience all over again.

Again it's not completely a bad thing, I really just don't want them to only be seen as the "Disney Brothers".  They were just getting some recognition outside of DC and by June 20th that's all gonna change. 

It's definitely a difficult thing.  I would call it bittersweet.  We all were waiting for this for what seemed like forever and now that it's here we're complaining about it being too much.  I don' tknow...

I'll support these boys through everything.  I just hope Disney keeps them around long enough for me to support them before they kick them to the curb.

I'm done for now.  Sorry for the rant


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New Post 5/23/2008 10:59 PM
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Re: Disney 

 Melanie wrote
I'm not saying that I don't like how Disney markets people, but at the same time you KNOW what you are getting into. This is their dream...Disney didn't tie them up and force them to. They went to an audition and did it, Disney liked them, they even have a song about being glad to be signed to their new company...

I personally, do not like walking into a shoe store and seeing hannah montana socks and high school music hair products, but that's life. It is what it is. Kids demand a certain kind of entertainment today and they demand everything to come with it. Times change, but this is how money is made. You also have to look at how disney is run....Disney Channel ONLY advertises for itself on Disney Channel. They make the majority off of the merchandise they sell for that channel. Most of their movies for Disney Channel are available to anyone that gets the channel, the money has to come off it somehow and that is the best way.

The thing about the Jonas brothers is that they are so marketable. They are nice, funny, down to earth, talented and cute. Perfect for Disney. But there is something that makes them very different: YOU GUYS. You all say that NO ONE will take them seriously, which to an extent is true. But how can you say NO ONE when clearly you all seem to care very deeply? Just because they are representing the Disney company now does that mean they will lose your support?

You can't cater to haters. There will always be some. But there are plenty of YOU around to support them long after camp rock dies down. I went to a WYLMITE show....and I have never seen anything like it. They can break out of Disney and beyond because at the end of the day they CAN'T be thrown to the curb because all of you will STILL BE THERE. You fans are crazy, when it comes to these boys you don't mess around. But honestly, I think everyone needs to stop the negativity and focus on the positive. If this is their dream and what they signed up for, out jobs is to SUPPORT it.

Wow, I guess I had only looked at the negative.  But you're right.  We're not going anywhere


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New Post 5/23/2008 11:01 PM
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Re: Disney 

Disney Channel has helped these boys so much.

I mean, if it wasn't for disney channel, i probably wouldn't be a great fan as i am now.

seriously


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New Post 5/23/2008 11:44 PM
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Re: Disney 

 Melanie wrote
I'm not saying that I don't like how Disney markets people, but at the same time you KNOW what you are getting into. This is their dream...Disney didn't tie them up and force them to. They went to an audition and did it, Disney liked them, they even have a song about being glad to be signed to their new company...

I personally, do not like walking into a shoe store and seeing hannah montana socks and high school music hair products, but that's life. It is what it is. Kids demand a certain kind of entertainment today and they demand everything to come with it. Times change, but this is how money is made. You also have to look at how disney is run....Disney Channel ONLY advertises for itself on Disney Channel. They make the majority off of the merchandise they sell for that channel. Most of their movies for Disney Channel are available to anyone that gets the channel, the money has to come off it somehow and that is the best way.

The thing about the Jonas brothers is that they are so marketable. They are nice, funny, down to earth, talented and cute. Perfect for Disney. But there is something that makes them very different: YOU GUYS. You all say that NO ONE will take them seriously, which to an extent is true. But how can you say NO ONE when clearly you all seem to care very deeply? Just because they are representing the Disney company now does that mean they will lose your support?

You can't cater to haters. There will always be some. But there are plenty of YOU around to support them long after camp rock dies down. I went to a WYLMITE show....and I have never seen anything like it. They can break out of Disney and beyond because at the end of the day they CAN'T be thrown to the curb because all of you will STILL BE THERE. You fans are crazy, when it comes to these boys you don't mess around. But honestly, I think everyone needs to stop the negativity and focus on the positive. If this is their dream and what they signed up for, out jobs is to SUPPORT it.

Wow you said it perfectly.  I agree with you 100%.  It is what they want, so we should do our best to support them. :)


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New Post 5/23/2008 11:51 PM
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Re: Disney 
 Alex wrote

Melanie wrote

I'm not saying that I don't like how Disney markets people, but at the same time you KNOW what you are getting into. This is their dream...Disney didn't tie them up and force them to. They went to an audition and did it, Disney liked them, they even have a song about being glad to be signed to their new company...



I personally, do not like walking into a shoe store and seeing hannah montana socks and high school music hair products, but that's life. It is what it is. Kids demand a certain kind of entertainment today and they demand everything to come with it. Times change, but this is how money is made. You also have to look at how disney is run....Disney Channel ONLY advertises for itself on Disney Channel. They make the majority off of the merchandise they sell for that channel. Most of their movies for Disney Channel are available to anyone that gets the channel, the money has to come off it somehow and that is the best way.



The thing about the Jonas brothers is that they are so marketable. They are nice, funny, down to earth, talented and cute. Perfect for Disney. But there is something that makes them very different: YOU GUYS. You all say that NO ONE will take them seriously, which to an extent is true. But how can you say NO ONE when clearly you all seem to care very deeply? Just because they are representing the Disney company now does that mean they will lose your support?



You can't cater to haters. There will always be some. But there are plenty of YOU around to support them long after camp rock dies down. I went to a WYLMITE show....and I have never seen anything like it. They can break out of Disney and beyond because at the end of the day they CAN'T be thrown to the curb because all of you will STILL BE THERE. You fans are crazy, when it comes to these boys you don't mess around. But honestly, I think everyone needs to stop the negativity and focus on the positive. If this is their dream and what they signed up for, out jobs is to SUPPORT it.


Wow you said it perfectly. I agree with you 100%. It is what they want, so we should do our best to support them. :)



Thank you. (: I mean I look at it this way...Right now I would love to be able to act. I'm in acting cl*CENSORED*, I make youtube videos, and if I went to something with Disney and they liked me, I would be thrilled!

The idea of kid going to bed with a picture of me on their nightgown freaks the HECK out of me, but it all comes down to doing what you want. Before I got into acting I did have an internal struggle...follow my dream and try to do what I love...but in the process lose a lot of my life, or don't try to do anything at all and keep it how it is? But that's when comes down to liking or loving something. I enjoy it so much that if it came down to something like that, I am OKAY with it now. Not saying I would be happy with it...but to do what I want it's worth it.

I think that's how they must feel.

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New Post 5/23/2008 11:58 PM
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Re: Disney 

Okay disney channel does have a lot to do with who the Jonas Brothers have become, where they have been heading. The truth is sometimes I get this impression that they didn't know what they were siging up for fully when they go into the "disney" deal.

Yes they did this. They started with Disney on own free will, but you know how you make a choice and at the moment it seems like the BEST possible thign ever, and then after awhile you regret it. Well sometimes I worry this may be one of those moments.

Again, you have to remember that maybe without Disney the Jonas Brothers could have been nothing , or they could have been something.

 

When talking about disney and how they Portray the Disney family it is a lot of pressure. I mean sure every teen wants to be a role model for all the kids out there, make sure they give good examples. WE ALL MESS UP sooner or later it'll happen to the Jb. Believe it or not. Them being with Disney might turn these mistakes around and make them HUGE way to big for what they actually are.

 

EXAMPLE: miley.

she is young, and beautiful, and talented. The media got to her and she mesed up. Unfortunetly because of her image as a Disney Star, not only were kids devastated but PARENTS were questioning her role model abilities.

Anyways.

 

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New Post 5/24/2008 12:09 AM
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Re: Disney 
Modified By Melanie  on 5/23/2008 11:10:24 PM)
 nask23 wrote

Okay disney channel does have a lot to do with who the Jonas Brothers have become, where they have been heading. The truth is sometimes I get this impression that they didn't know what they were siging up for fully when they go into the "disney" deal.


Yes they did this. They started with Disney on own free will, but you know how you make a choice and at the moment it seems like the BEST possible thign ever, and then after awhile you regret it. Well sometimes I worry this may be one of those moments.


Again, you have to remember that maybe without Disney the Jonas Brothers could have been nothing , or they could have been something.



When talking about disney and how they Portray the Disney family it is a lot of pressure. I mean sure every teen wants to be a role model for all the kids out there, make sure they give good examples. WE ALL MESS UP sooner or later it'll happen to the Jb. Believe it or not. Them being with Disney might turn these mistakes around and make them HUGE way to big for what they actually are.



EXAMPLE: miley.


she is young, and beautiful, and talented. The media got to her and she mesed up. Unfortunetly because of her image as a Disney Star, not only were kids devastated but PARENTS were questioning her role model abilities.


Anyways.



w.e For now all we can do is sit back and watch



I don't really understand how you sign up for Disney and not know what you are signing up for...this isn't 10 years ago that they did this. It was about what...a year and a half ago? No more then 2 years. HSM and Hannah Montana were heading into their game. When you work in this business, you can never assume "well it's just going to be like this" you always have to assume for the best or the worse.

As for things being blown out of proportion- yes they are. That's another thing about this business, it's just how it is as much as I hate it. I think the business should be about the job and what happens when you arn't doing your job shouldn't be anyone's business, but I guess that's not how it is. But someone else brought this up somewhere and I agree- They are boys. The media is focused much more on girls messing up. Right away they are already better off. Boys can't mess up as much as girls in the media. I think they will be fine...as deep into Disney as they are I can still see them getting out of it again when the time comes. The thing that is different between them and say Hannah Montana or HSM is that they ALREADY had a fan base. How many of you knew of Vanessa Hudgens before HSM? Even if JB was small, they are already huge even BEFORE camp rock was announced. They ALREADY have songs on stations other then radio disney. I think they can pull this off.

Sorry if I seem to be rambling, this is just a sort of topic I have a pretty strong opinion on lol.

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New Post 5/24/2008 12:46 AM
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Re: Disney 

 Melanie wrote
 nask23 wrote

Okay disney channel does have a lot to do with who the Jonas Brothers have become, where they have been heading. The truth is sometimes I get this impression that they didn't know what they were siging up for fully when they go into the "disney" deal.


Yes they did this. They started with Disney on own free will, but you know how you make a choice and at the moment it seems like the BEST possible thign ever, and then after awhile you regret it. Well sometimes I worry this may be one of those moments.


Again, you have to remember that maybe without Disney the Jonas Brothers could have been nothing , or they could have been something.


 


When talking about disney and how they Portray the Disney family it is a lot of pressure. I mean sure every teen wants to be a role model for all the kids out there, make sure they give good examples. WE ALL MESS UP sooner or later it'll happen to the Jb. Believe it or not. Them being with Disney might turn these mistakes around and make them HUGE way to big for what they actually are.


 


EXAMPLE: miley.


she is young, and beautiful, and talented. The media got to her and she mesed up. Unfortunetly because of her image as a Disney Star, not only were kids devastated but PARENTS were questioning her role model abilities.


Anyways.


 


w.e For now all we can do is sit back and watch



I don't really understand how you sign up for Disney and not know what you are signing up for...this isn't 10 years ago that they did this. It was about what...a year and a half ago? No more then 2 years. HSM and Hannah Montana were heading into their game. When you work in this business, you can never assume "well it's just going to be like this" you always have to assume for the best or the worse.

As for things being blown out of proportion- yes they are. That's another thing about this business, it's just how it is as much as I hate it. I think the business should be about the job and what happens when you arn't doing your job shouldn't be anyone's business, but I guess that's not how it is. But someone else brought this up somewhere and I agree- They are boys. The media is focused much more on girls messing up. Right away they are already better off. Boys can't mess up as much as girls in the media. I think they will be fine...as deep into Disney as they are I can still see them getting out of it again when the time comes. The thing that is different between them and say Hannah Montana or HSM is that they ALREADY had a fan base. How many of you knew of Vanessa Hudgens before HSM? Even if JB was small, they are already huge even BEFORE camp rock was announced. They ALREADY have songs on stations other then radio disney. I think they can pull this off.

Sorry if I seem to be rambling, this is just a sort of topic I have a pretty strong opinion on lol.

lol i like when ppl have strong opinions. keep writing away

 

anyways.

Well the jonas brothers are still young. I know kevin and joe are legal aged adults now but they are still young. When you have a dream a huge dream usually you will do whatever it takes to get that dream to come true. The jonas brothers did know what disney had in store, but sometimes not everything turns out they way you really hope it would have, and it's really sad.

I am a Disney fan. I think I am a little too old to be a fan but w.e anyways I support them a lot, but sometimes they have to be more sensative towards the image of a star.

And really it isn't Disneys fault in this. We as the fans cause a lot of the controversy. How many Miley Cyrus fans can honestly say they havn't been Distraut or shocked about The Vanity Fair Scandle?

It shouldn't even be called a scandle. But how many can say they stuck with being her fan through it?

The fans are what tips the edges of these stars. Disney isn't all to blame



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